I spent a while getting it right, and it's spot on, exactly what I see :)
Click it to see it proper size, and imagine it's all you see in your field of view pulsing and moving gently about
Here are some pictures that Andy Coulter used on a blog post as an analogy of what he see's with his eyes closed, definite similarities, please send me pics of what you see!!
I'd love to hear if you see the same, please click comment and let me know. You dont need an account with blogger.
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I just see black, no dots or patterns like that... Bizzare!!
I can see my floaters if it's light enough .... and there are certain areas that appear lighter than others ... difficult to explain ... but not the same as what you see ...
This is interesting. Two comments. One, the images when my eyes are
closed are mobile, while yours is static. Two, Before I went to the
picture, I totally thought that you were talking about what is seen when the eyelids are pressed softly, which for me originates a
remarkable pattern.
If I were to draw what I see with my eyes closed, most of the drawing would be done with an orange push-up.
I see after images (trails) intricate color patterns like rainbow snowflakes dancing in the air before me --- all a lovely side effect of my psychedelic drug use during the 60's and 70's.
They are still most beautiful and enjoyable to see too!
After images of whatever I was just looking at. If I keep them closed in a lit room, as the after-images begin to fade, often I see a spot of color (lavender, black, red, green) in the midde of my vision, or just to the left of center, that clarifes and the area around it seems to come into focus (not really, but it looks that way) and I see a corona
of fine-grained tiny light blobs in a dark lattice or the reverse - a light lattice with a dark background.
Sometimes, as the after-images fade, I see pinwheels of light that tumble usually counter-clock-wise. Imagine a windshield wiper blade attached to a central pivot in the middle of a pane of glass, with you directly underneath the pivot, looking up. The area above the glass is dark, but glowing red blobs of stuff are dropping onto the glass, and the blade turns counterclockwise, smearing the blobs behind it in a circle. Several of these may be going at once.
Does that make sense? It's really quite disturbing to watch, because I know that my mind is just making something up because it's bored with nothing to watch, in effect, a real hallucination. Fortunately, when I open my eyes, it all vanishes.
Like the jpg, Rob. That is kind of like what my eyelids look like from behind, only without so much green in it. And, of course, it is in motion, and looks less like the Shroud of Turin.
Kidding. A good depiction of the eyelid thing, though.
Doesn't look like phosphenes, which are more localized and have a specific cause. What that pic shows looks more like background "noise".
I think most people see something other than pure black with their eyes closed, and it is probably just random firing of axons along the visual pathway. Nothing to worry about.
I have for along, long time, seen channels of color - it looks like a long tube down which I travel, and the orbs of color change - starts small and come forward toward me (getting larger) and then disappears. Then the next color develops, and so on. I can make myself see this when I meditate or are on the brink of sleep - I started doing it for
amusement when I was a young child and can still do it today.
Initially, I think it was random firing of the axioms (?) but now I
have some control over it.
The weird thing is, now I have retina problem in one eye (idiopathic CNV). I don't know if it's associated...?
I did somewhat the opposite - the circles got smaller. I'd describe
it as starting with a random visual field, within which all the pure, uniform blue would gradually migrate closer and closer to the center, leaving a variegated rusty reddish color to fill the area outside the blue center. Eventually the blue center would get small enough or appear far enough away that it lost my attention, and the cycle would
start over. I could usually control the speed of the cycles, and it was quite pleasurable to balance a pure blue center at a certain size for as long as possible. I still get the reddish color when I close my eyes, but I haven't thought about that wonderfully pure blue for many
years.
If it is a given fact that the visual cortex responds by seeing light when it is being stimulated, it cannot be assumed that these light appearances have anything to do with the eyes. If a tumor, cyst or other growth was pressing on the visual cortex, a constant barrage of light stimulus might be seen in the dark. We can't rule out the idea of advising a CT scan and VER to see if there's abnormal physiology here.
I posted the question to a few forums and have just updated the comments section with the forum replies, I'm going to get some pics of what other people see sent in hopefully and will put them up
Shit hot drawing.. roughly about what i see!!
well anyway i looked at urs... now you look at my geek site :P
2.14.NET in the making..
hey. you're a philosopher...whats does the thing about trees falling in a forest mean?
I'll put a post up, as it's a little off topic for this thread... and as I'm doing that, you can let me know what you see when you close your eyes :)
One of my favorite filmmakers, Stan Brakhage, made many many films (hand-painted on film) that (he claims) represent his closed-eye vision. His own writing on closed-eye vision is amazing too.
hey rob!
i tried some time before: http://www.8ung.at/mrtn/fotos/works/thingsyousee.jpg
did people send you pictures/drawings so far? and can you post them?
thanks
martin
hey rob remember me?? Salah I used to go out with an old house mate of yours named vix. Just thought Id say hi and let you know im still alive a thinking of all the goods times I had when I was back in Nottingham with all you guys. Well take care dude.
Salah
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